A. I just assume that he did. I think at one time he
did say that he talked to his friend at DEA. Drugs was a
concern because of what we talked about earlier with Hull,
because of the poor reflection it would have on the
My notes or my memos to him talked about narcotics
and he was concerned about it, again because of the image
problem and because it did damage.
Q. In your contracts with John Hull and with contra
leaders, including Calero, what was their attitude about
these stories about drug trafficking?
A. When I talked to Calero about it, he was concerned.
He thought it was bad for the image, bad for the program.
Hull was constantly being targetted, certainly in the Honey
and Avirgan suit that he was involved in narcotics trafficking.
and Renee Corvo and others were involved.
As I stated earlier in the four years that I have
known John Hull, I would find it hard to believe that he was
or is involved in narcotics.
Q. Did you meet with Eden Pastora?
A. On four or five occasions.
Q. Did you know Carol Prado?
A. Yes. In one of my memos, I said I was concerned
that he was involved in drug trafficking out of Panama.
Q. Marcos Aguado?
A. He was Pastora's pilot. There was concern about
Q. After [INFORMATION BLACKED OUT] April 1984,
what happened to Pastora's planes and equipment?
A. A couple of the ended up going eventually to the
FDN. He had one or two -- I think there was one that crashed
on the Pacific Coast, another was flown into a mountain taking
off [INFORMATION BLACKED OUT] with one of his former
Q. Do you know of any support that Pastera and his
group was receiving free the United States Government via
CIA or North or Hull [INFORMATION BLACKED OUT].
A. No. There was a.conscientious decision not to
support Eden Pastera.
Q. Have you heard of Gerardo Duran?
A. I think he may have been involved in narcotics
trafficking, but I don't know where that comes from. I may
be slandering the man.
Q. What about [INFORMATION BLACKED OUT].
A. I have heard the name. And I right now can't
remember in what context.
Q. He is a Cuban-American from Miami -- does
that refresh your recollection?
A. I don't know whether it was [INFORMATION BLACKED OUT] --
there is another name, and I don't know whether it is the same
that was involved in the Cuban movement against Castro and . . .